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Left-wing BS versus right-wing BS

Posted by Katie Boundary

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The right makes a lot of understandable mistakes. They often start out with facts, but then draw the wrong conclusions from those facts. Here's one that the religious right might make: "abstinence is the only guaranteed way to avoid pregnancy/STDs, therefore abstinence-only sex education will reduce teen pregnancy and STD rates". The first half of that statement is objectively true. But the second half is not a conclusion that you can logically draw from it. It relies on incorrect assumption that abstinence-only sex ed somehow leads to teens not having sex.


Now here's one that the alt-right might make: "black people make up 13% of the population but commit 52% of crime (or violent crime), therefore we need to gas the Jews". I checked and the first half of that statement is a slight oversimplification of a real statistic: black people committed 52% of homicides between 1980 and 2008. But "homicide" is a pretty broad and potentially misleading category, as it can include justifiable homicides, such as killing people in self-defense. And I definitely don't see what any of it has to do with the latter half of the statement, but it no doubt has something to do with George Soros, and it's definitely not word salad.


But what do you see if you look at the left? Utter bullsh*t. Not even an attempt at dealing with facts or even meaningful English phrases. Living wage? That doesn't mean anything. It's not a phrase that any economist on the planet uses. "Living wage" just means "whatever minimum wage the left is pushing for at any given moment". Or how about "assault weapon"? Again, this doesn't mean anything. An "assault weapon" is just "whatever kind of gun the left is trying to ban at any given moment". There IS such a thing as an assault RIFLE, but those are already illegal in the US and have been forever, so the left can't use them as an excuse to push their idiocy. How about microaggressions? Cultural appropriation? Or one of my favorites, "environmental justice"? Again, these don't mean anything to anyone except insane people who spend all their time making up new genders on tumblr. They're just part of the giant mountain of word salad that leftist ideology is based on.


To a huge degree, I think this is why I can tolerate right-wing idiocy more easily than I can tolerate left-wing idiocy. When I'm debunking right-wing bullsh*t, the people I'm arguing with at least speak the same version of English as the rest of the f***ing world (aside from being peppered with the occasional "cuck" or "based") and we can have an actual f***ing conversation.


And then there are the libertarians. The events of 2020 were the straw that broke the camel's back in terms of my break from libertarians, or at least from calling myself a libertarian. I remember picking up on the concept of "essential workers/jobs" pretty easily. You can't just give EVERYONE $1000/month and lock them in their homes until the plague goes away. Food still needs to be grown and shipped. Power plants need to keep running. These are qualitatively different from the jobs that more or less only exist so that people can do them so that they can pay rent. I tried explaining this to libertarians and they just didn't get it. "All jobs are essential because people need to do them to pay rent and if you give people free money to pay rent that's SLAVERY" jesus f**king christ. No. That's not how it works. Libertarians need to pull their heads out of their asses and realize that reality is often complicated and messy, and that "just because a problem exists doesn't mean the government should try to solve it" isn't the only time when you're allowed to use nuanced thinking.


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Reply by unikittyplays27

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This is me. This is the shape that let others recognize me as myself. It is my symbol for myself. This is, this is, and this is as well. Representations. Everything is merely a description, not the real myself. Everything is simply a shape, a form, an identifier to let others recognize me as me.

Then what am I?


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Reply by Katie Boundary

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Courtney... did you just watch the last 2 episodes of Neon Genesis Evangelion?


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Reply by kAINE!

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tl;dr? i aint readin allat !!


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Reply by hil

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You're just fucking wrong on several things here, not to mention the blatant bigotry you dropped in that sentence about gender and environment. I'm going to leave some genuine facts here and leave because you seem very obviously delusional. Assault rifles are NOT banned in the United States, it is done by a state by state basis and very few have them banned. Living wage is a fluctuating number based on what people need to make to afford in each state and county they live in. Of course it changes and of course people are all pushing separate numbers, it's different where EVERYONE FUCKING LIVES. You have no fucking idea what you're talking about and you're just another mouth spouting misinformation proudly thinking you've found the answer.


Sources

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_weapons_legislation_in_the_United_States

https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/assault-rifles-legality-by-state

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Living_wage

https://livingwage.mit.edu - a real CALCULATOR for it.

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/l/living_wage.asp

https://abcnews.go.com/Business/difference-minimum-wage-living-wage-matters/story?id=96251007


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Reply by manofSteele

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I think it really depends on which side of the aisle you tend to lean towards.  I'm center-left, and I seem to have a much easier time understanding what the far-leftists are saying than the alt-right.  I like to use the analogy of language.  Most ideologies have a sort of "language".  Even if something is nonsense, you can understand nonsense in your language better than nonsense in another one.  Overall though, you really did hit the nail on the head for the most part!


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