The declaration of stupidity in people

Sorry you are the one that is uneducated and brainwashed. You prove the point that the movie is making a satire of. LMFAO you need to reevaluate your beliefs to align them with scientific reasoning not idiotic views and propaganda.

I'm vegan and a green consumer. You're really brainwashed  OP...

You both are completely brainwashed, and actively fucking ignorant.

https://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar6/wg1/

Except its us libertarians who are pushing for nuclear power adoption?
We're the ones in favor of cryptocurrency over fiat?
You know, the main issues that actually could reduce energy wastage and pollution in the west?

Furthermore, you act like you own the planet, that you're entitled to the entire land air and sea, so much so that you believe that the planet should fit your ideal model alone, when in reality tons of other people would want it in other ways.

You own your property, you look after your property and support businesses that follow practices that you support. Its really as simple a that. Let the free market do its thing - Nuclear power delivery. That would massively boost adoption for electric vehicles as well.

Nobody is saying climate change isn't real, it is, but not as exaggerated as politicians make it to be and regardless the entire planet has been changing for millions of years well before humans. It inevitably will change with or without us over the next few billion years, do you seriously expect the planet to look the same?

So seriously get a hold of yourself and let go of the paranoia from political brainwashing. Politicians will use whatever they can get to push their election campaigns, including fear-mongering with wild climate change claims. They really don't care about climate change, else they would have supported legalizing commercial nuclear power generation a long time ago.

I don't think I've seen so many replies in a single thread where no one really said anything before. Y'all do know that calling each other brainwashed without challenging what the other person said isn't actually an argument right?

Its funny lmao he hasn't replied since I called out his ignorance. Still, I'd give him the benefit of the doubt simply coz I can't expect a reply in just 1 day given the state of this site.

Fundamentally disagree with your premises, as they are all strawmen and seem to be what you think I believe versus what I believe.

“ you act like you own the planet, that you're entitled to the entire land air and sea, so much so that you believe that the planet should fit your ideal model alone, when in reality tons of other people would want it in other ways”

Generally, I do not feel that I own anything as I reject the notion that humans are special and own whatever they are advancing. That's what you projected onto me. How is caring about the planet and the entire idea of life (I.E all living creatures) entitled? I think you are confused. That’s what the make-believe religions say. We are animals and a part of the symbiont circle 

 Just like everything in the world. 

“You own your property, you look after your property and support businesses that follow practices that you support. Its really as simple a that. Let the free market do its thing - Nuclear power delivery. That would massively boost adoption for electric vehicles as well.”

However, you need to explain how the "free market" fixes everything. Sorry, that's not how it works. Markets are only concerned with higher returns on investment in the next quarter. It's all about money. Therefore, it's likely that you are indifferent to anything other than yourself if you can still type an idiotic statement like this. 

In addition, I have no problem with cryptocurrency or any other form of money over fiat?

In the near term, nuclear power adoption may give way and time to improving more solar, wind, and hydroelectric power. But nuclear power should not be the end goal more of a stop gap. But again, I don’t know where you thought my position was… that’s a projection of what you think I thought. I said nothing about that. 

“Nobody is saying climate change isn't real, it is, but not as exaggerated as politicians make it to be and regardless the entire planet has been changing for millions of years well before humans. It inevitably will change with or without us over the next few billion years, do you seriously expect the planet to look the same?”

In your statement, you pretty much say the same thing that anyone who doesn't care says, and I am sorry you have no data to back up your claims. 

Although the world has changed, you simply do not recognize the gravity of the situation that mankind has created over the last 12,000 years (the last 150 specifically). 

“So seriously get a hold of yourself and let go of the paranoia from political brainwashing. Politicians will use whatever they can get to push their election campaigns, including fear-mongering with wild climate change claims. They really don't care about climate change, else they would have supported legalizing commercial nuclear power generation a long time ago.”

You don't seem to understand what you're talking about. I'm not a leftist, a rightist, a middle-grounder, or whatever. What matters to me is the well-being of the entire planet and all live that inhabits it. The rights of one individual don't matter to me if it causes harm to everyone else. It's that simple. Rather than thinking " Fuck you, I have mine ", why not have a conversation instead of dividing everyone who opposes your viewpoint into camps? We all live on this one ship, one rock, we get one life, and if we fuck it up that’s it.  

Could you please clarify your positions a bit better? I don't mean to come off as an ass, but you seemed to dismiss things without presenting any evidence. 

Because some of you will only read part of this before claiming I’m biased, here are my responses on how to use logic to reach a conclusion.

The so-called good and bad are subjective to the eye of the beholder. One might think only of themselves, hence to try to maximize pleasure could justify to themselves many things that others might find horrific. And for good measure. We tend as a society to have what is a colloquial sense of morality and or a generalized sense of what is right and wrong. But it does sit on a sliding scale depending on the person you ask. There are no absolutes.

But when it comes to things like sifting through data or information. The way that I approach things is via the scientific method. When looking into any topic you want to find a body of objectively verifiable facts that are positively indicative of or exclusively concordant with one position notion over another. When things can be verified, tested, and put under scrutiny and still produce the same results, they can be backed up safely. The real key is being able to not be dogmatic and trying not to work backward from an already believed conclusion.

 So when looking through information disregarding unreliable means:

If something is not compliant with other verifiable sources and is not falsifiable then that thing can be discarded. There will always be some bias in sources. However, that's why you should use multiple sources and confirm that whatever is said has been verified and isn’t just unsupported assertions.

Sources:

https://www.ipcc.ch/sr15/

https://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar6/wg1/downloads/report/IPCC_AR6_WGI_Full_Report.pdf

TEDxTalks. (2021, March 4). The secret weapon against pandemics that nobody wants to talk about | Alex O'Connor | TEDxWarwick. YouTube. Retrieved January 16, 2022, from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3-evFI1Fis 

Phebe Asantewaa Owusu & Samuel Asumadu-Sarkodie | (2016) A review of renewable energy sources, sustainability issues and climate change mitigation, Cogent Engineering, 3:1, 1167990, DOI: 10.1080/23311916.2016.1167990 To link to this article: https://doi.org/10.1080/23311916.2016.1167990 

OurBombs. (2021, April 22). How sure are climate scientists, really? YouTube. Retrieved January 16, 2022, from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7FAAfK78_M 

Wikimedia Foundation. (2021, November 17). Hierarchy of Evidence. Wikipedia. Retrieved January 16, 2022, from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hierarchy_of_evidence 

Dandotiya, B., & Sharma, H. K. (2022). Climate Change and Its Impact on Terrestrial Ecosystems. In I. Management Association (Ed.), Research Anthology on Environmental and Societal Impacts of Climate Change (pp. 88-101). IGI Global. https://doi.org/10.4018/978-1-6684-3686-8.ch005

LMFAO, uneducated idiot...

I like how almost none of you can back up your claims... Fucking idiots. Come back when you can have a logical discussion.

It's hilarious you think you're right when the citations of so called data you provided is complete bullshit. You got to be the most ignorant, idiot, pot calling the silverware black, moron I've ever spoken to. Honestly you are just a sad sack of conspiracy theories and anti science dogma. You need to go back get an education and also learn what the hirarchay of scientific evidence is. 

Honestly you all are just fucking idiots, please present some sort of data. ( Let me clarify, real science) peace out. 👌

One more note: I love how you can only pull up 10 year old bias right wing articles which have zero credibility.( Opinion writing)

PPPS

ok buddy I'm sorry you unfortunately can't understand logical thought or science.

You seem to just be projecting your own faults onto others who do not share them.  & You have proved nothing. Good day!

You prove you don't understand anything.

That escalated quickly. Yeah tho, despite @Austin’s ravings I agree with what he is saying fundamentally. The only life worth living in my opinion is one where we build our identity around nothing but conclusions reached through scrutiny and the scientific process. That is the only way that we can truly guard ourselves and our society against people like Trump who, in my opinion, operate strictly on a platform of what I would call strategically misleading the American people. 

To bring this forum back to Don’t Look Up, I think it was a 7/10 movie for me. I think it could have been visually more appealing. Still - I REALLY liked the social commentary made in terms of the character or Dr. Mindy (DiCaprio’s character).

The scientist versus the society

This is a theme that plays out over and over again in the movie, and I think it was refreshing to see it highlighted in the movie. Bottom line is the scientists are trying to get the world to accept that they face an imminent threat, but I think Mindy’s response to the news was funny. His response is overwhelmed (obviously), but also a bit passive. Almost as if he’s just incapable or unwilling to do anything. And I feel like this very strongly mirrors a characteristic of “mainstream” academia IRL. 

In times of crisis, even though scientists are usually the most capable to talk about what we can do and be activists, they just don’t. And we’re watching this play out in front of our eyes with the climate crisis. I’m not seeing much of any activism among the scientific community, when they should be the ones making the most noise. Maybe they just give up because they think that they’ll be drowned out by politics or the interests of corporate media. It saddens me though that this institution that I love so much isn’t doing much of anything to help future generations. 

And I think, especially in the case of the climate crisis, I think bystanders are just as at fault as the big corporations, because they have had so much time to make a change or call for change.

The Distracting Influence of Superficial Politics

I think there is a very real parallel to be drawn between Dr. Mindy (especially concerning his affair) and his duties to tell the world about their situation, despite his personal distractions. I see the affair supply as more than just drama, but as a means to show how the doctor, and really the wider public, react to and ultimately distract themselves from their impending doom. 

And by giving into this short term gratification, it shows just how easy it is for even the most educated or those who we consider to be the most capable to lose themselves and bring society to an end - literally.

That’s where I think we are as a nation right now. We don’t focus nearly enough on on existential threats, instead opting to focus on military and wars. These things aren’t important, just one is existential yk.