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Posted by Chaos

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Why are there so much kommunists, it's not like i hate them or something, but capitalism is not a truly bad thing. I just want to know why these people hate capitalism. 

Just because it doesn't work normaly in many countrys i don't think it's all bad. 

And if in kommunism everyone got  eqal then where is the motivation to work. Because the fact that our work's keeping alive the system is not a motivation for everyone, and how could you change everyone's view? 

Edit: Thanks for the answers. I feel kinda stupid now, but i decicled to go and learn a little more about those things.


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Reply by Neooooo

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FYI, there has never been a truly communist "country", you're thinking of socialist countries. :]


Capitalism is actually designed to work "badly" or "out of the norm" in many countries, it's a part of its design. Powerful colonial nations (The US, England, France, etc.) invade foreign countries, kill their people, take their resources, and cause the quality of life there to plummet. If the people living in these exploited nations end up democratically electing a socialist leader, Western powers will always try to interfere.


There would still be reason and motivation to work under socialism/communism. Instead of being motivated by the risk of ending up homeless/dying if they don't find work, people would be motivated by wanting to contribute to and support their community instead.

"From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs" is an interesting slogan you can do some research on. "Marx explained his belief that, in such a society, each person would be motivated to work for the good of society despite the absence of a social mechanism compelling them to work, because work would have become a pleasurable and creative activity. Marx intended the initial part of his slogan, "from each according to his ability" to suggest not merely that each person should work as hard as they can, but that each person should best develop their particular talents."


There are also videos on YouTube that describe socialism in more detail, Second Thought is great for beginners! :]


I hope this was helpful, also you should probably not take the other person in the comments seriously since they're just trolling.


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Reply by Dimitrijevich.

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Chaos (if that is your name), my comrade, you seem to have some very wrong but very common ideas regarding communism.

Communism is not the same as socialism. Communism is a classless, moneyless, stateless society, and it is the end goal of socialism. In socialism, it is not that everyone is "equal" in the way that you're thinking it. No, a doctor will not be paid the same as a street cleaner, though that does not mean one should be respected less than the other. The motivation to work is an ever-present factor within humans, as we do not like being bored. In socialism you will have all your basic needs taken care of, such as food and housing. This means that you as a worker get to completely focus on your work and, logically, it follows that you would be even more productive than in capitalism. Because you do not have to worry about starving, you can focus on your work more. 

Now, to address the problem with capitalism. In capitalism, it is necessary for a group of people to be oppressed. In fact, my father is an economist, and it is a rule in economics that for one man to have it better, another man must have it worse. Big powers like the USA are only so powerful because they take away resources from less powerful countries, which stunts those less powerful countries in that """"primitive"""" state. That is, they are not allowed to use their resources to develop, and instead those resources are going to big colonial powers. For there to be a top, there must as well always be a bottom. This is exactly how capitalism is intended to work.

There is also the issue surplus value. Surplus value is the difference between the cost of making something, and the cost that something is sold at. That thing is sold for more than it cost to make it, and you, as the worker that made it, do not get that full price. Instead, the profit goes into the pocket of the man that simply owns the factory/office/whatever, and does not contribute by working. Understand? They are stealing from us every single day.

This is a little bit messy and perhaps poorly worded, but if you are interested in hearing more, please feel free to ask questions. I'm glad to see that you are open to hearing the other side, as people usually think communism is a scary word and don't want to listen to us.


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Reply by sadsatan

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I can't say more than what the others have stated here. Good job comrades! <3


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Reply by arc0

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People are always looking for some kind bail out from big bro that they will even be willing to accept subpar sewage like Communism. Ill keep my land, fr


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Reply by ⋆。゚☁︎⋆。 LG ゚☾ ⋆。゚

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Communism only worked on paper. Never in practice. As others said, there were only socialist countries, and the system was always rotting from the inside, no matter how much the propaganda pretended it doesn’t. I actually recommend watching some documentaries and reading reliable books. AI and some random articles are excluded from this. It’s an interesting topic, and ig many people believe that communism could still work, but I’m afraid , with humans, it can’t. 


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