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Mozilla Firefox is Ruined

Posted by ✶Rib𓆩𓁺𓆪Eye (OFF IN JUNE)✶

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Repost from Reclaiming the Internet Forum
This is a topic worth breaking news. What do you think, Spacehey?



Breakdown:

The initial Terms of Use contained language that appeared to grant Mozilla broad rights over user data, specifically regarding content uploaded or inputted through Firefox. 

Mozilla also updated its Privacy FAQ to address legal concerns around terms like "sells".

While Mozilla has historically stated that it does not sell user data, it has moved away from this commitment due to the evolving and broad definition of "sale" in various jurisdictions.

Mozilla now acknowledges that it gathers and shares some data with partners to ensure Firefox remains commercially viable, while anonymizing data or presenting it in aggregate form.

Some have noted that Mozilla has removed the statement about not selling data from its FAQ, which has caused concern and thus this controversy.

My personal opinion:

I used Firefox for a long time as my daily driver, alongside a chromium-based browser and Edge (solely for Microsoft accounts only). I truly believe in people's rights to privacy and not be used as a product for a company's "free service". It sucks that Firefox would go out this way. I might present an alternative, the vanilla Mozilla browser sucks so, but I'm worried that they'll be affected:

  • Hardened Firefox - heavily customized vanilla firefox / just remove the telemetry bro / probs won't work anymore
  • Waterfox - Firefox fork
  • Librewolf - Firefox fork
  • Zen - hip new Firefox clone that I'm not sure if it's good or not
  • Fennec - Firefox fork for android
  • Mull - Firefox fork for android
  • Palemoon - Firefox if you're still using Windows XP lol

This forum post is all about Gecko-based browsers. While you may drop mentions of Chromium browser, this is not about getting Chromium-Based alternatives but about Firefox clones or browsers with Gecko web engine.


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Reply by God

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thaz a bummer <//3 i dont personally hav anything i deem worthy of hiding but i do fear even tha slightest admission 2 data collection could b a horrible omen of watz 2 come . once i hav tha chance i might consider switching 2 fennec if itz any good, az im currently stuck on my phone for tha forseeable longterm (coughaoogufjahjfja save me)


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Reply by Benji

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Once other kinds of browsers come around that aren't based on Chromium or Firefox, I suggest switch to it. Stuff like Ladybird and such. Firefox forks will be great short term, but I don't think we should be maintaining forks that are based on upstream and not their own true split off from Firefox. It's gonna take effort to remove the telemetry BS and no one should be dealing with that.

Also, a small TODO at least for me is to look into if any of the non-ChromeFox browsers have something from WebKit in them. I remember my teacher talking about how pretty much every browser has WebKit somewhere in it, but I'm not familiar if any of the true newcomers will follow suit.


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Reply by Nicholas (music on prof🎧)

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Man, I was so fucking pissed when i found out about this


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