Left vs. Right

You’re making it too wordy. I’m thinking about editing and just making it LvR. #emoticon 

Donald Trump won the 2020 election. I fucking called this election back in September. I said that Trump would win Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania on Election Day, but that magical mystery-ballots would show up out of nowhere and be 99% for Biden. And then it happened exactly fucking like how I said. I nailed it. The Establishment had to rig the game to get their power back. No one's fucking buying it except the Democrat partisan hacks who are so politically illiterate and retarded that they have no reason to even be voting.

Oh I know, right. The Dems are so establishment that it hurts. Bernie probably could have beaten Trump, but the Dems hate their own base so much they through out the one candidate that could win in order to place their illegitimate choice. And to place this subpar choice they are now fighting lawsuit after lawsuit. Several are up to the Supreme Court and they will be deciding on the soon. 

Groups aren’t available yet. We used forums before groups were a thing. I’d be ok without groups tbh. But I definitely will utilize them if I have access. 

DADDY TRUMP DADDY TRUMP!!! <3 <3 <3

I don’t get it... where’s the vs...

I think folks are already overwhelmed enough with pyrrhic arguments on mainstream platforms, to be perfectly honest. If there isn’t a specific point of contention to talk about and resolve, more general adversarial conversations take a lot of effort from both parties without any real progress made in striking up a relationship between either party. Sooo it would make sense to me that most folks try to keep out of dust-ups.

Hey no soy we can get into it. Let’s vs. pick something we’ll go at it.

Start a thread, and we can go from there! I’d prefer not to meander and get off topic from the OPs original intent, unless they want to steer the conversation.

But this thread is about vs and I want to vs right here right now 

1 v 1 me pleb 

Let’s go Hannah, right now 

I'm a Gen Xer. Old I never subscribed to a party. I won't go into but it was somewhat obvious in my generation to not. I will say this. Do you ever find it odd that extremely successful people often do not care about "political leanings"? They look at it almost like fan fiction or cosplay. It would seen that it simply is not a variable to participate in but simply understand. Odd.

im lyndon john

Bingo. It's sad to me, people divided. Nothing in life is ever black or white. People have different problems depending on a lot of factors. Politics have ( possibly always been) a cult. People have allowed themselves to be indoctrinated to believe you have to choose a side. At that, people just parrot what they hear others say. Very little individual thinking here. The ethic of looking at issues and not parties has( if it ever existed) has long since been gone. The ideology of " one group of people bad", has been and still is a dumpster fire. Bigotry is still bigotry. Whether it's done based on gender, sexuality, race, spirituality, political parties. I'm pretty sure there's good and bad to all things. If we stop letting the ones who get paid a LOT of money to divide us, we might indeed, get more done.

Constitutional monarchy is Based. Most political stable form of Goverment. 

pagara ustedes,han visto un estado de izquierda triufar estados unidos por culpan de la izquierda se va quedar en unos tiempos como venezuela por eso europa se estan desarrolando la ultraderecha para no depender de los estados unidenses y tambien la derecha ha tenido mas desarrolo y triufor en muchos paises como el falangismo,fraquismo,la derecha de rumania,alemania y paises de latam

I dont understand the concept of lumping all of politics into a left vs right mentality. Sure things like abortion and immigration are pretty divided left vs right but for some reason things like public transportation, health care, and college get lumped into being a left issue and i dont get it. Having the government provide basic things that every other developed country has shouldn't be seen as a far left concept. We all work and pay taxes only for corporations and millionaires to get government handouts and pay nothing. Its absurd that wanting to get something in return for paying your taxes automatically makes you a liberal. 

Personal freedoms are another confusing one to me the left is okay with the govement telling them what they can and cant do with guns and the right is okay with the govement telling them what they can and cant do with drugs yet both sides claim to be on the side of personal freedoms. Well which is it because you cant have it both ways?

We badly need a thrid party in this country. The majority of Americans dont fit completely into the left or right and the most reasonable people fall somewhere in the middle yet we dont have any party or politicians actually representing us who fall in the middle.

on social issues i lean liberal but on personal freedoms and government regulation overreach i lean more conservative.