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Reply by SoftyDeluxe

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sorry for my typos, i just got a new keyboard and am still getting used to it!

tinker bell and the disney fairies franchise originated from a trilogy of books written by gail carson lavene which then evolved into a whole slew of chapter books all written by various authors and following their own isolated stories surrounding the various faries from pixie hollow, located on neverland island in the universe of peter pan. the original trilogy served as a good starting point for people to learn the worldbuilding of pixie hollow before diving into the chapter books which could be read and enjoyed in no particular order with no greater or overarching story (which makes sense as they were written with children in mind, who notoriously do not have the attention span to read the likes of, for example, game of thrones, generally speaking). in the books, tinker bell was an established character living in pixie hollow with all the other fairies, getting into all kinds of trouble and fun with her friends.

then, in 2008, the series was quietly and softly rebooted with a 3d animated movie titled tinker bell. this movie started with tinker bell's arrival to pixie hollow after having just been born from the first laugh of a baby. this introduction part, much like the rest of the movie and subsequent sequel movies, animated shorts, and games, shares little with the books in any capacity. and that bothers me.

i dont understand why the reboot of tinker bell / disney fairies as a franchise had to be so different from the original books and such. like, they literally didn't have to change so much. tinker bell in the books had a small friend group consisting of a few fairies like prilla, rani, lily, and so on. most of them got COMPLETELY changed in the new movies and shorts! excapt for a few?? like vidia and queen clarion and terrance. THEY all get to stay while beck gets replaced by fawn, who is LITERALLY the same character with a different name and haircut. don't get me wrong, i like the new characters, but it all just feels so unecessary. i can understand changing their designs to make them easier to animate, but why bother keeping characters like vidia if you're going to change almost everyone else?? it's not like any character other than tinker bell was particularly popular.

not only that, but they also changed the talents. and it makes NO SENSE!! in the books, there were as many talents as there were stars in the sky, which is to say many. some of them were broad, like being a 'water talent' fairy or being a 'tinker talent' fairy, but some of them were incredibly niche, like being a fairy who has a 'pots and pans mending' talent, or a 'lady bug wrangling' talent, which i think is cool! it adds a lot of individuality to the characters and allows kids and adults alike who enjoy the series to make their own fairy characters with whatever talent they want! there's so much room for creativity and uniqueness, it's kind of like when you're in the pool with your friends playing mermaids and you all pick what special powers you each have.

but in the movies, no, you get like. 7. water, light, tinker, garden, animal, fast-flying, dust, and?? winter??? and sure, there's some variation on what you can do in each talent, but it seems like they just broadened it up to where if you're a garden fairy, great! you can now do anything relating to plants and flowers. which is cool, but idk, it just loses it's uniqueness in having everyone kind of being able to do the same stuff. but then, in tinker bell and the secret of the wings, we learn that warm weather fairies can't interact with winter fairies as they're restricted to their own parts of pixie hollow (the cold part i guess). in contrast to the books, in which fairies really only cared about making people believe in fairies because belief is what keeps them alive, fairies in the reboot are in charge of changing seasons on the 'mainland,' or the human world. namely london england, as it's never implied the fairies travel anywhere else to change seasons. i've always wondered if this means there are other fairies that are tasked with changing the seasons in other parts of the world? but i digress. the point is, in the first tinker bell movie, tinker bell and two other tinker fairies, bobble and clank, are seen flying through the winter area with little to no issue outside of being a bit cold. but in secret of the wings it's implied that your wings will disintigrate and never recover or grow back if they are left exposed to the elements for even a short while. so... what is the truth??

there's some other stuff outside of the movies that bothers me about talents. mainly in the video games. in two of the three nintendo ds video games there are for the tinker bell reboot, you get to create your own character! your own fairy! this is what every kid was probably thinking about doing when reading the books or even watching the movies. but you don't get to choose from all the talents - you just get water, garden, animal, tinker, and light. don't get me wrong, this is still an impressive lineup and does impact several things about the game such as which minigames you get to play with that particular fairy, but why not go the whole 9 and put the other 3 in? "no one would want to be a fast flying fairy" are you kidding me? vidia was SUCH a cool character and i'm sure a lot of kids goth / lesbian awakening, i mean just look at her!! especially in the great fairy rescue where she has some character growth!! "well they can't go to the winter part" ok but they literally can? in the first tinker bell game they do, AND in the second one (if i'm not mistaken), because at that point secret of the wings hadn't come out yet and they didn't know they'd have to worry about it.

thankfully and also unfortunately, no more games were produced for the ds after the great fairy rescue game, so we never got our secret of the wings game to try and retcon in the reason as to why you're no longer able to freely and safely explore the winter areas. i almost wish they had gone the route of "every kids movie has to have an accompanying video game" just for the sake of having more content. they DID have pixie hollow online, but it's since been shut down. however, a recreation is being developed by fans under the name "we the pixies," which looks exceptionally promising! i never played the original, but im excited to engage in this new version just for fun!!


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