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Both are called the morning star in some biblical texts, both came from heaven to earth,
Bible says that Satan would deceive the world by masquerading as an angel of light?
Wouldn’t that be hilarious
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Is Lucifer the same as Jesus? Could Christianity could be a Luciferian cult?
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Reply by Ariel V
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If you believe in what some early Christian sects (Gnostics) believed about “God” one may think that they may not even be opposing forces at all.. but one in the same.
Reply by Fabian Dee
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I'm a bit rusty but I don't think 'Lucifer' being equated to Satan is really what the gnostic gospels are getting at, more they emphasise the symbolism with Jesus. The OT and NT never name Lucifer as Satan nor as the fallen angel, it is only modern Xtianity that does that. Also there is only one brief reference to Jesus being Son of the Morning in one place in the whole NT, to what degree that is a translation embelishment I don't know. The title Lucifer is of pagan Roman origin as you prolly know as a title for Venus not actually 'Venus' if memory serves me correctly.
Reply by Ariel V
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yeah you are very much right, I guess I should've said that this was my own "interpretation' or understanding of how I see things after reading the bible, some Gnostic texts and other texts or ideas about Jesus and the being/force they call ''Lucifer'', ''Satan'', ''The Devil'' whatever you would to call it/him. Like for example in Greek mythology
there is Prometheus who I find to be similar to Lucifer/Satan/Devil and Jesus(or at least the Jesus described in Gnostic texts) because Prometheus was a ''light-bearer'', ''knowledge-bearer'' who brought the knowledge of fire and other things to humans freeing them from ignorance and Zeus. which is very similar to the story of the Garden of Eden with the snake giving man knowledge of good and evil and in a way freeing them from the old testament God. The snake is supposedly Satan right? Then the story of Jesus where he brings the Light/Knowledge of the Pleroma down to
human kind to free us from the Demiurge/material world. I don't know, they all sound like rebels to me or the same being/force to me, and there's other stories from other cultures as well like with Enki from Sumerian myths. Is it that far of a stretch to think they are all one in the same? I guess it is lol... I used the name Lucifer because well in the modern era today Lucifer is what most people refer to or name that cosmic force being or whatever that opposes ''God'', even if the origins of the name don't actually mean that. Anyways I was really just trying to start up some conversations to see if this group was active and to maybe attract more members lol.
there is Prometheus who I find to be similar to Lucifer/Satan/Devil and Jesus(or at least the Jesus described in Gnostic texts) because Prometheus was a ''light-bearer'', ''knowledge-bearer'' who brought the knowledge of fire and other things to humans freeing them from ignorance and Zeus. which is very similar to the story of the Garden of Eden with the snake giving man knowledge of good and evil and in a way freeing them from the old testament God. The snake is supposedly Satan right? Then the story of Jesus where he brings the Light/Knowledge of the Pleroma down to
human kind to free us from the Demiurge/material world. I don't know, they all sound like rebels to me or the same being/force to me, and there's other stories from other cultures as well like with Enki from Sumerian myths. Is it that far of a stretch to think they are all one in the same? I guess it is lol... I used the name Lucifer because well in the modern era today Lucifer is what most people refer to or name that cosmic force being or whatever that opposes ''God'', even if the origins of the name don't actually mean that. Anyways I was really just trying to start up some conversations to see if this group was active and to maybe attract more members lol.
Reply by Fabian Dee
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Yeah the idea of a rebel is a Satanic archetype in the LHP sense I guess, although not necessarily a Satanic one, in some contexts Jesus in the NT was a 'rebel' and against the status quo.
This is what I wrote about the serpent years ago:
'The serpent in the Garden of Eden, in the book of Genesis, is regarded
by Judaism to be just a snake, albeit one that could talk! The serpent
is not equated by Jews to being the 'devil'. It is however often
interpreted by Christians as being Satan, although this is never
actually stated in the OT. Gnostics regard the serpent as being the
Gnostic Goddess Sophia, which Luciferian Gnosticism associates with
being Lucifer. Baphomet is a kabbalistic cipher for the Gnostic Goddess Sophia. Perhaps the myth of the snake being a representation of the devil was
enhanced by the legacy of Vlad III, Pinrce of Wallachia, in the 15th
Century, aka Vlad the Impaler.'
by Judaism to be just a snake, albeit one that could talk! The serpent
is not equated by Jews to being the 'devil'. It is however often
interpreted by Christians as being Satan, although this is never
actually stated in the OT. Gnostics regard the serpent as being the
Gnostic Goddess Sophia, which Luciferian Gnosticism associates with
being Lucifer. Baphomet is a kabbalistic cipher for the Gnostic Goddess Sophia. Perhaps the myth of the snake being a representation of the devil was
enhanced by the legacy of Vlad III, Pinrce of Wallachia, in the 15th
Century, aka Vlad the Impaler.'
Reply by Fabian Dee
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yeah it's p funny that ppl comment and then delete their profiles as they have high expectations of spacedway and the conversation in these discussions disappears, totally fucks up the groups
Reply by Ariel V
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"Perhaps the myth of the snake being a representation of the devil was
enhanced by the legacy of Vlad III, Pinrce of Wallachia, in the 15th
Century, aka Vlad the Impaler."
how did Vlad the Impaler enchance that myth? I've never heard of that before but would love to know. Also, yeah I guess people really thought this website was going to reach myspace levels lol.. I take it for what it is and I still honesty enjoy it some.
Reply by Fabian Dee
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That's a good question, lol I can't remember, I can't think of anything off the top of my head, maybe I was talking crap.