So I actually have a general question. I'm a Satanist and why do people think we worship Satan and sacrifice babies?
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Reply by Elohimless 🤘🇵🇷
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Blame the mass media & Hollywood movies for this bullsh*t. . .People in general misinterp what they don't understand.
Reply by Ray Pelletier
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Reply by Jaimie Rain
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Because the 'Satan' character was created by the Abrahamic religion we now know as Christianity. It's not uncommon for cultures, religions, sects etc.. to create a "boogy man".
In their religion Satan is responsible for all the evil, so when they view something as evil/immoral it's Satan. Paganism was considered Satan, Witchcraft whether it be someone providing medicine, was also considered the work of Satan. Psychopaths going on killing spree's, also Satan. Sometimes those people claim to worship Satan, be part of some cult. The truth is if they are saying that, what they are are warped Christians, Satan is a character from their Bible.
Lavey Satanism is a totally different kettle of fish though. As it is a fairly recent creation. Anton Lavey and his ilk chose the name as some kind of trolling, a bit of attention seeking, a bit of free publicity, it worked. It doesn't really have anything to do with Satan or Christ. In fact it's just Atheism with a bit of cherry picking from the Philosophies of Crowley and Nietzsche to name a few thrown in there. But of course if you're going to choose to name your Religious sect after a villain from another Religion, of course you're going to garner that sort of attention and I think that's what Lavey wanted.
Reply by burntLem0nz
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Definitely the name.
Reply by Kattarshian
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Yeah, most of us don't actually believe in a Satan as a deity or even a living thing. I'm a TST Satanist and we more worship Satan in its Latin translation, meaning opposition.
Reply by Donaghan
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It's mostly due to religious zealots. Of course in my religion Satan represents "evil", and when you pair that with people that don't understand that there can be multiple interpretations of things, you get anti-satanist idiots.
Reply by Mortuary
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It's Christian propaganda that they've pushed through media for decades, if not centuries. As time goes on, the stigma is slowly fading, but there is still quite a few people who will use that statement when pushing their agenda.
Reply by M1k3y
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Reply by mewtie
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A part to blame is on fiction novels, there was a canadian author who wrote a book about a sacrificial satanic cult and it spread propoganda to America, I forget the title but I referenced it in a research paper I wrote. A lot also comes from the Satanic Panic and the murders of the West Memphis Three.
But really, uneducated people aren't completely to blame since Satanism as a religion was made to spark controversy and get people scared and questioning their beliefs. It's not their fault for automatically assuming a religion named after Satan would be inherently evil, that's just kinda how it is. It'd be cool for it to be more widespread and known, and I think we're seeing that recently with the "after school satan club" incident, but then would that ruin the point of Satanism? Eh who knows
Reply by stxr_gxrl
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i mean in the christian religion satan is the bad guy, so of course people are gonna assume that we do bad things. i cant 100 % blame them, because that association is what theyve been taught their whole life. they just need to be educated i guess. i wish they wuold do that with all beliefs in schools, it would be interesting to learn about and it would reduce a lot of hatred stemming from fear.
Reply by maxfield
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extremist and radical christian propaganda, peoples fear of the unknown/new, etc etc.. fear turns into hate most of the time ig! we can't do much about closeminded people
Reply by ⛧ Scottie ⛧
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Satanism opposes the Catholic church. While the church prances and preens about how good they are and how we should turn to their ‘saviour’ Jesus Christ, the Catholic church is really the most hateful organization.
Catholicism and the media have painted Satanism to be a religion that worships Satan, meanwhile it just opposes the church. Yet, Catholics and Christians tend to think that anything that opposes their God is evil and demonic, which in turn has made them believe that Satanism is the religion of Satan simply because his name is in the title.
Satanism is actually a very beautiful religion- it prioritizes your happiness and soul and supports all people without exceptions. Christians are just so stuck in their ways that they refuse to believe that. 🤷♀️
Reply by ⛧ Scottie ⛧
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Satanism opposes the Catholic church. While the church prances and preens about gow good they are and how we should turn to their ‘saviour’ Jesus Christ, the Catholic church is really the most hateful organization.
Catholicism and the media have painted Satanism to be a religion that worships Satan, meanwhile it just opposes the church. Yet, Catholics and Christians tend to thing that anything that opposes their God is evil and demonic, which in turn has made them believe that Satanism is the religion of Satan simply because his name is in the title.
Satanism is actually a very beautiful religion- it prioritizes your happiness and soul and supports all people without exceptions. Christians are just so stuck in their ways tht they refuse to believe that. idk
Reply by D4r1lCreeper
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u dudes pentagram was not about satan it was about womans beauty go read The Da Vinci Code (DONT WATCH THE MOVIE IS BULLSHIT)
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Reply by finn
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i think its the fact that we use the title satanism, which was used to stand against the most popular religion at the time and still now
Reply by arazyal
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lavey satanism is the most common form of satanism and it's only called satanism for publicity.
you might be thinking of thiest satanism when it comes to the bad rep.. and all things considered its more of just an offbranch of christianity
Reply by Misiek
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>Identify your religion with a biblical personification of evil
>"Why do people think we're heckin evil???"
Satanists are so silly, i hope u grow out of ur religious teen angst soon!!!
Reply by pecan
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satan is the embodiment of evil so when you worship that ofc its gonna be assumed to be bad stuff
Reply by leni
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This is a question I've been asking myself recently... mostly misunderstand and false information from The Church®
Reply by spl4tt3r3d.gutz
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Reply by CloudyJester
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Because Christians mainly get to form the narrative about Satanists, particularly when it comes to Theistic Satanists. Rarely ever will someone actually seek out a Theistic Satanist's view on what Theistic Satanism is (which is nothing like what a lot of Christians, Hollywood movies or even a lot of LaVeyan Satanists say it is).
LaVeyan Satanists get a little more control over what information is out there about them and get taken a bit more seriously when they correct people, but even they aren't a person's main source on their own religion.
Reply by ♡ 𝓐𝓰𝓷𝓲𝓮𝓼𝔃𝓴𝓪 🐇
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I think mainly thanks to the satanic panic movement which took place in the 60s (I could be wrong tho).
Reply by Marshmallow_Fluff
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It would be wicked of me to strip thy books out of its context, for whence upon further investigation, doth one see the Psalms as a book of raw expression, with the selected Psalm being a raw, agonizing cry to God for justice through revenge. However, God maintains a serious level of patience, with the natural course of things being that those who live by the sword shall die by it, and whatever we as humans sow into the world, there shall we reap it.
It is why I hold no sympathies for the Evangelical and Catholic Churches, for they have thrown a stumbling block of torture against those earnestly seeking the Cross, and are now receiving their reward after staunchly refusing to repent.
And, I suppose thou would never intentionally forgo the mention of these being animal sacrifices, as the sacrifice of a human is forbidden and considered an offense punishable by death, for the life is in the blood and God demands an accounting for every bloodshed.
Ah, cannibalism. Thy mention of it strangely forgoes the mention of picture language, as God is quite illustrative in His Words, and of course, the mention in Deuteronomy being a warning of a coming future should His people keep practicing prostitution, idol sacrifice, falsehood, etc. I mean, if one is willing to sacrifice their children by forcing them to enter the flames and be consumed, it would stand to reason the cannibalism of others is not far behind. In fact, your mention of Leviticus appears to condemn the act quite fervently.
As for the mention of Numbers, I see such a command came from Moses, and upon further reading shall we learn, he did not enter the promised land did he? Now, the Talmud is considered a blasphemous book, for the Bible considers Jews and Christians to be lights to the world, gentle and fair. Thus, I would see a contrast there, for any killing of other nations were repeatedly mentioned as the result of their lewdness, human sacrifice, abuse, with the nation of Israel facing the same punishment for committing the same crime, even more so because of their belief that God would spare them, but as seen in the Exile, He did not.
I suppose the crux of the Bible could be found in Ezekiel 18. Strangely, a merciful, tender piece considering the Old Testament's frequent portrayal of violence. Though, considering what machinations humanity has come up with in the modern day, such brutality has not disappeared from the face of humanity.
As for any knowledge of Satanism, perhaps examine from the mouths of former practicing witches and warlocks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBT4weu-T10
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fN6HbnA1QGI
I do believe though, that there exists Satanists who merely seek it out as a blatant and perceived as effective way of revolting against the Organized Church, though perhaps one should examine the cost of such an response as the figure of Satan always comes to collect.
Reply by ❦IheartL❦
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Reply by Bill Liam East
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There are different types of "Satanism" and different groups within all those types. You have atheistic Satanism, theistic Satanism, and Luciferianism, and as a whole, all three of these are very different things. Different groups within the same overall type for all of these always hate each other and argue on the internet over beliefs and what is and isn't.
To answer your question, some theistic Satanist groups actually do these things. Look up an international group called the Order of Nine Angles <-- That is angles, not angels, or O9A or ONA. They openly encourage violence, even against children, and no, this is neither a joke, nor propaganda.
Beyond that, before they had a chapter in the US, in the 80s, people started rumors as a faith scare tactic, which is one overall source of the "spiritual warfare" conspiracy theories today along with others found in white supremacy.
If anyone is interested, I have a post about it outlining the different types, although I have to admit that it does need updating.
Reply by ☣m0ThHeAd☣
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Reply by fish_bole
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i suggest doing what i did and say u are laVayen rather than just satanic they will either not know what that is and shrug it off or look it up and learn something !
Reply by TokiDoki
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i used to be a hard heavy metal dude, my dad was the one who showed me all the music. he taught me about anton levay and the atheistic views he had. i used to be about that type of life, but recently i made a change in my spiritual views because ultimately i was agnostic more than a atheist. i found that god and satan and angels and demons all are real just not how we think they are like in the holy bible. thing is people take that book at face value and sometimes just misinterpret it a lot. it's hard to trust anyone who can call themselves christian cause most christians are hypocrites cause most of us come from a dark background but we just want to get out of that darkness into something more positive in life. okay so satanism to me really, its literal meaning is adversary or the enemy. what satan is, is something that we humans usually fall for because our desires and wants are stronger than our actual needs. demons and satan are not some funny monsters with pitchforks, its actually mental illness and drug use, and anger and destruction. you say "people think we sacrafice babies" i dont know who those people are but there is religions throughout history that have done that. pagan religions and even islam are most likely of the enemy because you have to look at the fruit they produce. this is something jesus taught.its just glorifying sin, and sin isnt just there to make life boring, it's actually like god is saying "hey these things are bad because if you partake in this, it just give you a hard time in life" its like when your parent tells you what you should and shouldn't do because they know way more than you, but humans think we know better and we always seeking knowledge and seeking things we ultimately don't need to really know. that's why it was a sin for eve to take a bite of that apple of knowledge, other than also defying our father. there's a lot more i can say, if anyone can contact me and discuss this stuff i can help. im sorry if this is a big ass post but yeah just to end it, there's a lot of stuff our there that we humans cannot comprehend.
Reply by 📼Charlies-Atrocities📼
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I feel like it's like any religion people don't like, they don't want people to follow it so they made up lies generations ago about the beliefs and the people that follow those religions and now everyone believes them
Reply by 📼Charlies-Atrocities📼
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I feel like it's like any religion people don't like, they don't want people to follow it so they made up lies generations ago about the beliefs and the people that follow those religions and now everyone believes them
Reply by KennysTeethR_Bleeding
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Theres theistic and non-thestic satanism, theistic satanism is the kind that worships the devil like from the bible n is the kind that shown n movies n shows n stuff. the majority of satanists are actually non-theistic though
Reply by Sylvr_salamander
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I assume it’s simply that the word ‘satan’ immediately makes people think of the Christian devil. I myself am a member of the satanic temple and whenever I tell anyone their first thought is either I’m trying to be edgy or I’m actually worshiping the devil.