I'm sorry if this violates any of the rules, but I am fascinated with the differences between these two churches/ways of thinking. I will try to tread the lines without bias, but we all have biases on the nature of human beings. My intention is to start a dialog of human nature.
Human beings can be naturally empathetic and selfless to an extent. Fight for injustices in the world and for other people who may be treated unfairly in society. Human beings can be this and still advocate for others people's freedom to speak, and bodily autonomy.
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Church of Satan and The Satanic Temple: Comparison and Contrast
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Reply by V Holeček Art
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advocating for their own benefits even if it means hurting other people.
It's only natural for people to look after their own. Human being are
complex creatures with varying moralities and ethics.
Fight for injustices in the world and for other people who may be
treated unfairly in society. Human beings can be this and still advocate
for others people's freedom to speak, and bodily autonomy.
Reply by Macky
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yeah, I think you explained it pretty good. I'm not a satanist but it's interesting to me. Maybe one day i'll be one.
Reply by Fabian Dee
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TST got $50 mill out of Netflix over the Sabrina statue so I think I'd call that a result, although it wasn't really a civil lawsuit like part of their campaigning, and any idiot could have likely gotten Netflix lawyers to agree, just a cynical money grab but if you can get away with it, why not!
Reply by V Holeček Art
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I doubt that's the kind of "results" most of their followers signed on for, though...
Reply by Fabian Dee
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lol yes you have a point there, iI wouldn't be surprised if he gave himself an immediate large payrise xD
Reply by bonkmaykr
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I'm still learning. Thank you, V Holeček Art, you've answered many of my questions.
Reply by evol
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not to burst your bubble holecek,
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/top-10-reasons-ayn-rand-was-dead-wrong/
https://www.rotman.uwo.ca/the-system-that-wasnt-there-ayn-rands-failed-philosophy-and-why-it-matters/
there are plenty more sources just a google click away if these are not satisfactory enough. It's.. frankly, alarming, how you say that satanism is about realizing that human nature is to be selfishly self driven which is the core concept of objectivism. altruism isn't bad. being selfless isn't bad.
it's contradictory to state the above but also go on to say that its about finding the equilibrium and that one of the core satanic rituals is compassion? if your compassion for others is driven by self interest and how it can benefit you, because this is pulling from objectivism again, because the focus on individualism from this concept is the total disregard of others as co-existing individuals and beings with their own wants, needs, feelings, and thoughts, if your compassion is from that, then it's not really compassion. it's you (royal you, to clarify, not you yourself) looking to manipulate others to feel good about yourself. which i find to be completely against what satanism SHOULD BE. no one person alive can be truly individualistic and self-oriented, anyway. humans as a species form friendships, relationships, communities, groups, clans, clubs, etc. for a reason. we are a species of companionship. we find the most fulfillment by just being THERE for others.
as for what satanism should be instead?? isn't it simple. the complete opposite of Christianity how it exists today, and it's hateful rhetoric.
i honestly could write a lengthy essay about what exactly satanism should be but i didn't come here and comment to end up starting a fight, but to bring light to the problems of LaVeyan Satanism.
/gen /nm
also yes i consider myself a satanist i'm saying all this in good faith dw.
not sure how spacehey is gonna format this, hopefully it's not one big paragraph.
Reply by V Holeček Art
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"It's.. frankly, alarming, how you say that satanism is about realizing that human nature is to be selfishly self driven which is the core concept of objectivism. altruism isn't bad. being selfless isn't bad."
"if your compassion for others is driven by self interest and how it can benefit you, because this is pulling from objectivism again, because the focus on individualism from this concept is the total disregard of others as co-existing individuals and beings with their own wants, needs, feelings, and thoughts, if your compassion is from that, then it's not really compassion."
Reply by V Holeček Art
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adding comment to link to this in-depth evaluation of the 7 Tenets and their relevance to Satanism as a religion
Reply by Jefferson mr milk Dharman 1349 plague
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