One of my barriers to getting a dumb phone is that I use my phone for navigation and music in my car. My car does not have its own navigation system or a CD player. You just have to plug in your phone and use either Android Auto or Apple CarPlay. I think I can plug in an MP3 player though.
Anyways, does anyone have recommendations for good car navigation systems that are not reliant on Google or something? Do people still use Garmins? Are they reliable? What do you use and what has your experience been?