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Why isn't media edgy anymore?

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People use the term "attitude era" in wrestling to describe a period in WWE (typically agreed to be from abt 1997-2002) that prioritized being as in your face and edgy as possible in terms of characters, story-lines, promotional material ect. Prime examples I think are characters like Stone Cold Steve Austin, a very clearly anti-establishment rebel character that's always trynna start some shit with his boss, the Undertaker (obviously) Mankind, D-Generation X, and probably more I cant list off because not everyone finds WWE interesting.

I think the term "attitude era" can be not only just applied to WWE, but to culture around that time on a larger scale. Things like, South Park, Eminem, Marylin Manson, Limp Bizkit, Nu-Metal in general, Monday Night Raw, Adult Swim, The First God of War, Shadow the Hedgehog, Tony Hawk's underground 2, jackass, the first Xbox, things that appealed to kids growing up at the time and things that revolted their parents.

Media wasn't afraid to challenge typical American values, this might have been in large part due to 9/11 and the general sense of disillusionment that it brought upon the public consciousness at large, or people's disdain for the 9-5 and the (in hindsight irrational) paranoia brought about by the prospect of Y2k, Movies like The Matrix and Fight Club highlighting people's growing disillusionment with the structure of American life as a whole, every piece of media was woven together by this sense of attitude.

We see a lot of problems still in the modern day, people's economic struggles, healthcare, the affects of social media, soul-less corporations, celebrity worship, industry plants, rapid fire trends, there are just as many things to be pissed about now as there were back then, obviously not to the extent of 9/11 but people in America are still being put through the wringer everyday and all that to still not even be able to own a house, start a family, have a sense of community or a third place.

You'd think the media would reflect at-least some form of the frustration felt by so many but it seems everything that gets churned out is just millennial-written, nostalgia pandering, Disney Adult dopamine inducing bullshit. Not to mention you barely see any semblance of metal or relatively aggressive music in the charts anymore, it's like all these artists that get shoved down our throats only exist to try and convince us everything's okay? Maybe that's what people want, an escape from the harsh reality that is modern working life, I get that, but I think too much escapism could be damaging in the long run, I think we have to start confronting these problems in media more, or expressing more frustration in media more, acknowledging the reality of these situations, giving the corporations and rich assholes who constantly push down upon regular, working people something to worry about.


Lemme know what u think, if u think I'm pushing up daisies, maybe or if u think this whole post was severely out of touch and stupid I'm interested in what people think abt this topic as I'm extremely passionate abt it.


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Reply by munchlax

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Companies are more afraid than ever about offending people, do anything outside the norm and there will be some group of people ready to get mad at you


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Reply by Broshua

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a lot of pussys with money around there


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Reply by xenon

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corporations want to appeal to as many people as possible to make as much money as possible, and edginess doesn't sell when there's a mob of pearl-clutchers ready to spam their emails and phones screaming about how "unchristian" movies or books or whatever will kill their children


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Reply by Ms. Gabe

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Dude, this is probably the most respectable opinion on this site. The only stuff that gets any attention nowadays is rich people making coworker music and "indie media" that looks like it belongs on Nickelodeon. Man, it's so rare to find a sensible person on here, since there's too many obnoxious 13 year olds on here with profiles that make your eyes bleed, overshadowing actual cool people.

Tl;dr, I agree 100% with your point, and I am sending over a friend request ASAP. I tip my beanie towards you.


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Reply by ( -_•)▄︻テحكـ━一💥

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 everything’s trying to be marketable, safe, and inoffensive



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Reply by PolarisPolanski

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I do agree that companies and media are trying to pander towards people and play it safe.

I also think that when it comes to individuals in particular that they only know ONE WAY to be edgy: To just be hateful towards others.
The "edginess" of back then was out of spite and discontent for the system. Nowadays "edginess" used as a tool for hating against the VERY PEOPLE that old edginess was trying to protect like the disabled, women, lower-class, minorities, maybe even lgbt+ if you squinted hard enough.

When companies saw that and decided to switch it up (but not too much as to actually give up their original value all together) you get a pandering mess which constantly baits-and-switches people into supporting them. Disney straight up canceling the Tiana show but will probably continue to interject black people random spot in pre-established stories (Which does no good because black people will continue to get no MEANGINFUL rep and the right will continue to blame us as if we're the one calling all the shot)
They give people enough to be intrigued and watch the show but by time the viewer realized that they were baited the company has already gained their money and interaction count. 

Not to mention that social media has made people EXTREMLY COMFORTABLE in willingly being stupid. I still can't believe the sheer number of women online who are so willing to dumb themselves when it just feels like were on the right track. Conservatism and Nazism has risen so high but because the only ones loudly objected to it are covered in rainbows and bright colours people don't take them seriously. It seriously sucks.


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Reply by particleghost

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People in this thread have made great points so far, and i also think one of the factors in this media shift is the 2010's hipster "irony" wave, where pop culture became so obsessed with seeming cool and aloof that society in a way became afraid of expressing any sincerity. You can see it with stuff like Marvel movies where any tense or emotional scene has to be broken up with lame jokes and one-liners, as
if to say, "it's okay, guys! Don't think too deep about this stuff, we're not even taking it seriously! We're not making high art or anything here! No need to get emotional!". In comparison, while the DC superhero movies weren't particularly good, they at the very least started out attempting to be subversive before eventually succumbing to the demands for ironic marvel-like humor with later films.

In fact, since you brought up Shadow the Hedgehog, we can even look at the Sonic series itself as an example. The "dark age" of the Sonic series in the mid 2000's was known for it's over-the-top, sometimes overly self-serious storytelling. This lead to the major shift in tone starting with Sonic
Colors in 2010, along with the shift to American writers. Instead of the cool, shonen anime-like games we had starting with Sonic Adventure, the games became heavily simplified: the plot was only Sonic vs Eggman, only Sonic was playable, no serious moments, everyone's making corny one liners in every scene. Even the official Sonic twitter seemed to lean into an "ironic", self-deprecating sense of humor.

While obviously story is not the most important part of any Sonic game, and of course you don't want a kid's game to be overly "edgy", it felt like in their attempt to defend itself from mockery from older millenial nerds who had long outgrown the series, the Sonic series stripped itself of the unique elements that made it special to kids like me at the time. I think that sums up the wider 2010's era of media. Insecurity prevents people from earnestly expressing genuine emotions and meaningful themes in their art. It seems that pop culture has yet to fully recover from this fear of "edge", but in every era the pendulum always swings from one extreme to the other. Ironic humor seemed fresh and witty when it was new, now it's overplayed and tiresome. I expect to see a lot more edgier content in the near future. Going back to the Sonic example, newer installments are starting to embrace the same elements the series tried to shun in the 2010's, much to audience acclaim. So it feels like a lot of people's tastes are changing.


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Reply by Neooooo

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^ Totally agree with the above comment!

We're currently living in an age of unseriousness, it's uncomfortable and discouraged to be truly sincere about your feelings and express yourself in a non-joking way, especially when it comes to negative emotions.


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tldr to a novel I would write - too much puritanism. People just play safe. Ugh 


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