petition to give an actual name to "pastel goth/2020 alt" !!!! (pls dont let it flopp <3)

by the way, im certain this can grow if you spread the word! like whenever you meet or talk to someone with this clothing style, you could be like "hey some people came up with X name for this style so that it has its own name now, it'd mean a lot if you start using it!" or smth, i have hope it can be spread around if we try to let it spread :)

ill give it a head start, my fav genres are jrock, jmetal and hyperpop (prefferrably if they have jp vocals) ! if im not wrong, a lot of us like japanese music and or culture, maybe a name that starts or ends in "nihon" would be nice; nihon means japan/japanese in japanese

I've seen people suggest spooky kawaii but idk how to feel about that (not pastel goth myself)

I used to dress pastel goth! I still do sometimes, like my style changes really there is nothing I wear constantly, sometimes I go full emo and other times I wear a lot of pink and just cutecore stuff I suppose?? I still admire pastel goth!! I don't know if I really have a say in this since I'm not dedicated to pastel goth, but I also listen to japanese music! Like jpop I guess? Sometimes Jrock it really depends! I also love kpop and emo plus scene songs !! My music taste is just like my style: a little bit of everything xD

idk i personally don't think the name pastel goth is bad, or is misused. I lived through the 2013-2015 era of tumblr and i understand why goths were mad at the substyle, but i mean, it was a substyle and by the time, the goth culture had has lost a lot of meaning according to goths themselves. This wasn't something exclusive from the 2010s, this occurred in the 90s - 00s with mall goths, cybergoths, and later on with nu goths. 

The word 'goth' seems to have become a sufix similar to 'core', 'punk', etc, to describe derivative styles from the original subculture, rather to a culture itself. And that's not necessarily a bad thing as long as people understand that substyles are not necessarily orthodox to what the original subcultures they took inspo from mean.

Pastel goth is already a very specific, and somehow dated (thereof, nostalgic and reminiscent of a time period) to rebrand imo. Although coquettes did rebranded themselves from "nymphetes" because the original name was problematic. I don't think that using the "goth" suffix is as problematic as that. But that's just my opinion (⁠灬⁠º⁠‿⁠º⁠灬⁠)⁠♡

I'd say that yami kawaii-menhera, bittersweet lolita, jirai kei, do share some aesthetical aspect tho

I was thinking neo alt sounds kewl but idk

Wait you're 2020 alt too???