HOMESTUCK UNPOPULAR OPINIONS!!!

i like vriska :P not in spite of her being a bad person, because of it. shes just silly <3

Tavros is so annoying!

Equius comes from a good place even though his actions are absolute shit and if he didn't die so early in the comics he could have been redeemed to an extent 

Act 6 was pretty good and i really liked cherubs and caliborn as a villan

i could fix cronus. just give me like. a day. 

i think eridan should've gotten a 2nd chanse like vriska did, and i believe he could've gotten better

Listen guys PLEASE ERIDAN COULD HAVE HAD A REDEMTION HEAR ME OUT‼️‼️‼️ im devistated 

I also im really sorry but like. Ok say gamkat kinda is like not very amazing sorry👎🏼 I cant see them as anything but pale

caliborn is funny...... sorry hes an asshole but the fact hes a misogynist but draws yaoi is so funny to me.... stupid little guy why cant he be normal

not sure if its a hot take but the fact that we only see the results of some big fights instead of the fights themselves makes me so mad

99.9% of the male trolls are ugly and quite frankly estrogen could save them from being so hideous 

i really like reading the gigantic walls of text even when theyre using a lot of words to mean not that much at all
also the trolls have a far more neutral fake skin color than the humans and the plain white for the humans makes it harder for me to want to draw my ocs in a homestuck style because a couple of the ones i draw more have darker skin which leads to me coloring them weird shades of various colors or just making them trolls to get around it in a way that doesnt make me uncomfortable

i think ppl r dramatic abt the epilouges, although i dont like them myself, there also comes a point where u gotta understand tht the reason the candy timeline is written so poorly is bc june decided to not fight LE. she literally let canon die, thats the whole point of the candy timeline. its to give perspective on what would happen if the stop motion scene in homosuck hadnt happened and everything collapsed!!! it sucks on purpose!!!!

the old homestuck vibe will never be able to reborn. Allow me to explain. Even if modern homestuck fandom is still super nice and awesome, have great people in there and other cool stuff, but it never be able to be like homestuck fandom in 2013 for example. It was much more crazy and edgy (???) i guess. nowdays people are a bit too softie, so homestuck fandom now is not such crazy and random as he was back in 2010-x. But it still great place to be honest!

not only am i gonna give mine i'm also gonna go down and individually judge everyone else's entries for the funsies. mine is that i'm a jane crocker apologist. anyway

"i like vriska :P not in spite of her being a bad person, because of it. shes just silly <3"
> fairly unpopular and also valid tbh. personally i couldn't stand her but that was when i was a 13 year old who took everything too seriously i wonder what i'd think of her upon reread

"Tavros is so annoying!"
> not unpopular

"Equius comes from a good place even though his actions are absolute shit
and if he didn't die so early in the comics he could have been redeemed
to an extent"
> decently unpopular though i think its mostly because no one cares about him. i do agree

"Act 6 was pretty good and i really liked cherubs and caliborn as a villan"
> don't think this one is super unpopular but not popular either i guess? i don't remember enough to objectively assess a6's quality but i had no issues with the cherubs so 👍

"i could fix cronus. just give me like. a day."
> i believe in you. go for it tiger.

"i think eridan should've gotten a 2nd chanse like vriska did, and i believe he could've gotten better"
> unpopular for similar reasons as equius he just didn't have much focus. i don't like him but i do agree

"Listen guys PLEASE ERIDAN COULD HAVE HAD A REDEMTION HEAR ME OUT‼️‼️‼️ im devistated 

I also im really sorry but like. Ok say gamkat kinda is like not very amazing sorry👎🏼 I cant see them as anything but pale "
> see above. also i'm ngl i've never seen anyone have an opinion on gamkat ever i guess i agree because i don't care much for their dynamic as a ship either

"caliborn is funny...... sorry hes an asshole but the fact hes a
misogynist but draws yaoi is so funny to me.... stupid little guy why
cant he be normal"
> i've seen this sentiment more than the opposite but it isn't prevalent by any means. also this is real

"not sure if its a hot take but the fact that we only see the results of
some big fights instead of the fights themselves makes me so mad"
> haven't seen discussion on this BUT I AGREE NOW THAT YOU BRING IT UP

"99.9% of the male trolls are ugly and quite frankly estrogen could save them from being so hideous"
> yeah. REAL.

"i really like reading the gigantic walls of text even when theyre using a lot of words to mean not that much at all
also
the trolls have a far more neutral fake skin color than the humans and
the plain white for the humans makes it harder for me to want to draw my
ocs in a homestuck style because a couple of the ones i draw more have
darker skin which leads to me coloring them weird shades of various
colors or just making them trolls to get around it in a way that doesnt
make me uncomfortable"
> haven't seen many ppl voice this either but this is also so real

"i think ppl r dramatic abt the epilouges, although i dont like them
myself, there also comes a point where u gotta understand tht the reason
the candy timeline is written so poorly is bc june decided to not fight
LE. she literally let canon die, thats the whole point of the candy
timeline. its to give perspective on what would happen if the stop
motion scene in homosuck hadnt happened and everything collapsed!!! it
sucks on purpose!!!!"
> yeah i was also on the epilogues hatewagon a few years back but in hindsight i'm not sure any of it should have been taken that seriously lmao

"the old homestuck vibe will never be able to reborn. Allow me to
explain. Even if modern homestuck fandom is still super nice and
awesome, have great people in there and other cool stuff, but it never
be able to be like homestuck fandom in 2013 for example. It was much
more crazy and edgy (???) i guess. nowdays people are a bit too softie,
so homestuck fandom now is not such crazy and random as he was back in
2010-x. But it still great place to be honest!"
> i see what you're saying but for me personally i'm not sure if more edginess in a fandom is such a great thing lmao

Feferi had EVERY right to be mad at Eridan for the way he treated not just her but everyone else. He was mentally and exhausting. Also Eridan is literally so annoying.

Feferi had EVERY right to be mad at Eridan for the way he treated not just her but everyone else. He was mentally and exhausting. Also Eridan is literally so annoying.

I agree with Betty_B0ther!

I think a lot of people don’t realize that Eridan was genuinely psychologically abusive to Feferi as her Moirail. He was constantly draining for her and resorted to self-deprecating tactics whenever he was given the slightest bit of criticism to keep her under his control. With that being said, I’m so proud of her for getting the courage to leave, and I feel like if Eridan hadn’t died, it would’ve actually been nice to see if his character redeemed himself and learned a bit of self-confidence! Poor Feferi 38(

Eridan and Gamzee would have been better "redeemed" characters than Vriska. I wish there was some time spent genuinely exploring them in Act 6 in the dreambubbles, instead of having the dancestors get such a big role. 

I get that Vriska's whole character is a commentary on the idea of an author's favorite/mary sue and all, but there was nothing interesting about her after she came back post retcon. Except that one scene where she confronts her dead self. That part gives you some insight into her narcissism and how her selfish desires to be remembered as a hero are driving the plan to finish the game.

I really wish Eridan got a little bit of that sort of thing too. And Gamzee, well, I'm not exactly sure where you'd start with him, but there has to be something to do with his addiction problems and violent temperament that doesn't just treat it as a forever joke.

I am so sorry but I do not like davekat or davejade and honestly I feel like most of his ships flanderise him or his partner. 

1 Some characters don't need to be redeemed.

2 Feferi didn't owe anything to Eridan.

3 Sharpie bath jokes are even unfunnier than bucket jokes.

4 Cronus is the most overrated character, everything that people like about him is fanon.

5 Everything about Homestuck is just a smear campaign against Jane Crocker (CopiumCopiumCopiumCopiumCopiumCopiumCopiumCopium)

guy that said "i could fix cronus" is wrong because only i can. we've been married for years now. back off!!!!!!!! also, i think its sad that some homestuck fans ive seen think they can't change their opinion on characters. like- once they hate them, they can't UNhate them you know. 

also typing quirks are awesome. 

the dancestors are so fun and funny for a viddy game where im not reading allat,

Karkat is fully annoying.. at least wwhen Davve yaps its funny but wwith kar (ESPECIALLY NEAR FIRST INTRO)) he's just kind of.. a pissy baby wwho keeps throwwing tantrums

Jade is a truly tragic character who got nothing she wanted in spite of being told her entire life if she waited long enough she could have it all, and she deserved to find love, even if it was at the cost of other peoples happiness. 

Her entire life she had been dreaming in Prospit, seeing visions of her future as a hero with her friends, the people she hadn't even met yet when she began seeing them but knew they would be the most important people in the world. She gained a complex around the fact she knew exactly what was going to happen but had to wait on a boring ass jungle planet barely being able to leave the confines of her tower without her weird space dog zapping her back home. She was a girl who loved love and life and adventure and everything that ever existed, even if it was bad, and she had to exist in suspension and trauma for so much of her life. She had to literally taxidermy the only parental guardian she had after she accidentally killed him, at like, an elementary school age. 

She refused to let any of that stop her though, or make her less of herself. If anything she filled the void the trauma and loneliness in her life brought with vibrancy and life and music. The cartoons she was into were incredibly colourful and fun, she was super into gardening because they were something tangible she could connect with, she was into music because it was something to fill the empty air, something she could feel.

She genuinely loved every person she met, she found good points in people she disliked, but she was also stubborn on her morals and didn't like people putting her down. She proved time and time again she was capable and dependable and loving and THERE. Her whole life was made in preparation for the game and she was prepared indeed. Because she knew at the end, she would get what she wanted, to not be alone.

And then the game ended, and everyone was moving on with their lives, and having families, and she saw how well Karkat and Dave got along and how close they were, she saw everyone having families and starting lives she didn't even get to dream about. And she was lonely again.

Karkat left, and she married Dave, but she knew he wasn't happy. She was in a relationship but still felt so alone. She confided in Rose to have a child in secret, one no one knew about, one she could raise just as her own, to have someone who was just hers and no one elses. And who could really blame her? A woman who just wanted to love and be loved, snuffed at every opportunity, and she can't even fault anyone for it. It's not Dave's fault for being gay after all, it's not Karkat's fault for leaving with everything that happened, and it's not like she's entitled to anyones romantic affection.

The only thing I could fault her for in her decision is not informing Kanaya, because if anyone would understand her plait, it's Maryam. Though given Jade's track record of disliking people lecturing her, I can get why she didn't want to have two Intellectual Know It All's talking to her about the ramifications of having a child in secret and informing basically no one. And knowing Jade, she'd see Rose as a lot easier to convince, seeing as she's known her for as long as she's dreamed.

Also I think Commander Karkat should be allowed to deck Davebot's head off his body and then carry him around like a chihuahua in a purse. Or like Juliet Starling from Lollipop Chainsaw with her boyfriend's head. Man had to literally invent a Rebellion HR because those two couldn't stop being weird around him and I also think the RoboGay himself would enjoy being on Karkat's hip.

(Pls don't take any of this too seriously I'm tryna think of the take of mine I dislike the least)

I see people saying they could fix Cronus all the time when the literal point of his character is that he's irredeemable. There's a huge difference between thinking someone is a good character vs being a good person. I personally think Cronus is a very interesting concept as a character. A horrible person though, there is no fixing that guy. He was written to be every horrible thing you can think of. (I do say this as a Mituna fan, so I may be a little biased /hj)

gamtav is such a fucked up ship

I don't like hyperfeminine Karkat, like I obviously won't hate on creators who draw him this way, but to me, that's not even Karkat anymore. That's just your twink mutant troll OC atp, and I also just dislike GamKar lol. No particular reason, but yeah

So, I have some opinions to share with the class that perhaps aren't unpopular, but ya know, guess they're not the most popular ones. Whatever.

- June Egbert doesn't have any sense.

- Calliope is one of the worst characters in Homestuck.

- Tavros is annoying blah blah (boring opinion).

- The Epilogues of Homestuck are actually good and not THAT out of character.

- Janey Crocker was right.

- Deltritus is, indeed, a sickass name.

i will forever be an epilogue defender. i always find it in poor taste when people tell other people to not read it because its bad. it doesnt allow others to let them form their own opinions. I was like that before i actually read the epilogues. i kinda hated on them without ever reading it becasue that was the main thing i was told. After reading both meat and candy, i enjoyed them for what they were, bad fanfiction. if that point isnt clear enough, the first thing you see is a ao3 cover page lol. like obviously this doesnt excuse some of the things within the epilogues, i do have some issues(gamzee), i still really enjoyed them for the most part, mainly meat. anyways ult dirk awesome.